I don't post here often, but reading through these posts kind of makes me giggle. To put my points in context, I've been riding "mountain bikes" since before any suspension bikes were available. My wife's high-tech Trek 930 with the original polymer Rock Shox still hangs in the garage (gotta love the CroMo stuff). 1. Equipment is equipment. No amount of engineering will make up for lack of skill or ability or balls. If you think any new suspension design will be the difference that puts you on the podium, you probably just suck and will rarely if ever see one. Just go ride. 2. Almost any decent design, if tuned properly to the terrain and the rider's style, is going to be fun for the rider. Tune it and ride it. 3. Who cares what it looks like. Some of the best rides are homely but eager, and some of the worst are beautiful but not worth the time. 4. Have some appreciation for contributions to the sport you love. Dave Weagle is an engineer's engineer and takes the time to properly document and patent what he creates, and he seems to do it for the advancement of the sport. The fact that other companies have similar designs that seem to work for people is good for everyone but him. Don't hate. If more people in the industry were like him, we'd probably have even better bikes. Apparently I own two DW designs (a Trek and an Iron Horse), and I love riding them both. It's a far cry from riding a converted single-speed cruiser down a rocky hill with just a coaster brake, but to be honest -- not all that much faster.